When I suggested we build a natural swimming pool and Kevin came home with an above ground pool…
Let’s just say I wasn’t in the best of mood.
Here I was, dreaming about a beach front entry, natural rock borders, and gorgeous plants to naturally filter the water while Kevin was dreaming about “putting that thar plastic up on them sticks and fillin’ er up with a hose”.
No, Kevin’s not a redneck, but sometimes his crazy ideas have me wondering if his inner dialogue is. Instead of an angel & devil on his shoulder, he’s just got two rednecks telling him to “for sure stop on the side of the road and pick up that perfectly good mattress”.
What’s wrong with chlorinated swimming pools?
Chlorine is a double-edged sword, because while it can keep a pool free of bacteria, it also has some pretty harmful side effects.
I get it. Nobody wants their pool filled with algae. So, even though we know that swimming in chlorine pools probably aren’t the best option, we stock up on the stuff — simply because we don’t know if there’s any other alternative.
The problem is that chlorine has some nasty side effects on the body. The levels needed to maintain a bacteria-free pool can also cause problems ranging from red eyes, dry skin, & brittle hair, to increasing your risk of bladder cancer, decreasing thyroid function, alter hormone function in boys, and destroy our vital gut flora that is an integral part of our immune system.
Chlorine is especially harmful to those with asthma or allergies and can exacerbate their symptoms. Because I’ve been trying to improve my thyroid function in a new protocol, I really didn’t want excess exposure to chlorine for myself.
How to convert your pool into a natural swimming pool (with hydrogen peroxide)
If you want to go for a more natural pool, you can either build a TRUE natural swimming pool that is designed to stay clean naturally with plants that filter the water, or you can take your existing pool and treat it with hydrogen peroxide.
Yep, that’s it. Just hydrogen peroxide.
Hydrogen Peroxide (also referred to as H202) isn’t a chemical that is harmful to the body, in fact, your own body produces hydrogen peroxide on it’s own and it exists naturally in rain water. Hydrogen peroxide’s job in the body is to help maintain healthy cell function. In fact, many cancer patients swim in hydrogen peroxide pools for an additional therapy.
Hydrogen peroxide is a powerful oxidizer – even more powerful than chlorine! When it’s exposed to sunlight, it eliminates the nutrients that bacteria & algae feed on. By doing this, it will allow you to have a natural swimming pool, one that’s free of chlorines, chloramines, & algaecides. You can also experience the many health benefits of swimming in a hydrogen peroxide pool like improved skin & hair, & improved cell function.
Supplies you’ll need to treat your natural swimming pool with hydrogen peroxide:
- 35% FOOD GRADE Hydrogen Peroxide BUY HERE (The hydrogen peroxide you buy at the pharmacy for cuts & cleaning is only 3%, typically. You’ll need to be sure to get the 35% hydrogen peroxide.)
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU ORDER 35% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE: This is a very high concentration, so you’ll see lots of warnings for using it. In this concentrated form, it will need to be kept in a cool, dark place away from children. It will come in a box with triple packaging (to avoid fumes from coming out) and you possibly will need to sign for it when it’s delivered.
Don’t worry about the danger of swimming in a pool treated with hydrogen peroxide. Once you add it to the pool, it will mix with the thousands of gallons of water in your pool and the concentration will reduce to less than 1%, which is perfectly safe for humans and animals to swim in and drink.
- Hydrogen Peroxide Test Strips
- Protective gloves & eyewear
How to clean your swimming pool with hydrogen peroxide:
- Fill your pool with water. You can use water from the hose that is chlorinated. Chlorine & hydrogen peroxide can mix together just fine.
- To start treatment, shock your pool with hydrogen peroxide by adding 250 ml (1 cup) of hydrogen peroxide for every 1000 liters (250 gallons) of water. If you are currently treating your pool with chlorine, you don’t have to wait for the levels to go down, you can start using hydrogen peroxide now.
It is advised to add the hydrogen peroxide, then let the pump run 6 hours before swimming so it’s fully incorporated and the percentage is at a safe swimming level.
- Use the test strips and test your pool about once a week. When the levels drop below 50 ppm, add 250 ml (1 cup) of hydrogen peroxide per 2000 liters (500 gallons) of water.
- To maintain a clean, sparkling pool, keep your hydrogen peroxide levels between 50 – 90 ppm. Run the pump every night according to your manufacturer’s instructions and change out the filter about every two weeks.
That’s it!
Safety precautions & storage tips with hydrogen peroxide
Because hydrogen peroxide oxidizes quickly, it’s best not to stock up on more than a 30 day supply. Also, like I said above, it should be stored in a cool, dark, well-ventilated place, away from the reach of children. When you are handling the 35% bottles of hydrogen peroxide, you should wear protective eyewear & gloves. If you do get some on your skin, simply run it under water to reduce the concentration. Also, avoid inhaling the hydrogen peroxide while handling it. If it is accidentally swallowed, drink water and call your doctor or poison control.
Unfortunately, if you have a diatomaceous earth pump, this method cannot be used, as it will break down the compounds inside your pump.
Our experience with using hydrogen peroxide to create a natural swimming pool
After we initially shocked our pool with the hydrogen peroxide, the levels stayed above 50 ppm until about 10 days later. We noticed to maintain correct levels, we have had to add roughly 1/2 gallon every week. Because hydrogen peroxide is activated by sunlight & heat, we noticed that as it became warmer (we hit 120 temps last week!) we had to add more like 1 to 1 1/2 gallons every week.
Overall for about a month of pool maintenance of a 10,500 above ground pool, we have had to use about 6 gallons of hydrogen peroxide, costing us roughly $150/month.
Where you live, you may not need to use as much if it doesn’t get as warm as it does here in Arizona. Cost-wise, I think it’s about the same as we spent last year on chlorine & algaecides (and even then we could never keep our pool clean!) This hydrogen peroxide method has kept our pool SPARKLING clean, and it takes minimal effort to dip a test strip in and pour a gallon of hydrogen peroxide in to treat it.
Overall, the process has not only been easy, but an incredibly healthy option for us! We don’t have any more red eyes, dry skin, brittle hair after swimming. We also haven’t had any problems with swimmer’s ear like we’ve had in the past. I can’t say for sure if it’s because of this method, but it’s worthwhile to mention! And even though it may be a tad more expensive, it’s the perfect option for us with our above ground pool. We aren’t in a position to get a salt water pump, and although I’m pinning some of my favorite natural pool designs for the future, until then we’ll keep doing the hydrogen peroxide method to enjoy our own natural swimming pool!
Hoping you see this…. we are 1st yr pool owners. I bought thr oxygen pool system to help avoid any use of chlorine. When we test our water with the strips, peroxide never shows a color. What could be causing this? They gave us oxygen brand shock- 1 cup 1x week. PH lower as needed- baking soda . And alkaline rise- which they said is a type of acid- we have to ise protective gear to mix, wooden spoon, etc due to it being unsafe to handle. This seems to defeat the purpose of the oxygen system.
Thoughts?
Hi, question you said use 35 percent food grade peroxide but when u click the link u posted it goes to Amazon and is fo 12 percent food grade diluted already. So is this formula u gave is based on the 12 per ent or 35 percent. Thank you.
Hi Sara-
The peroxide that DaNelle suggests is 35%. While the link that is in the article goes to a 12%, the directions on the product suggest to use 3x’s the amount of the 12% to equal around to the 35%.
You will also want to use the test strips DaNelle suggests in the article to check the ppm of peroxide, trying to keep the levels between 50-90ppm.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I just bought it from http://www.intothegardenofeden.com.
Thank you for sharing this! I’ll be trying this out this summer on the first pool I’ve ever owned. I’m so excited because I was about to buy an above ground pool and fill it with sand and plants and hope for the best. Bahaha! At least I know I won’t have any issues going this route. ? Thanks again.
We have an above ground pool with a sand pump. This year has been a terrible year for mustard algae. Our pool is measuring 90 on the test strips, and is green. Should we add peroxide again? We just added it a few days ago.
Hi Debbie-
You can try and shock your pool as it suggests in the article, but I wouldn’t swim in it until levels are back down between 50-90 ppm. If it doesn’t take care of the algae you may need to contact a pool company to see if they can help.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi. Thanks for the info. I’ve been using peroxide for several months now and it’s great, but I’m using 8 gallons a month, and still have to supplement with calcium hypochlorite shock. I’m in South Florida where it’s obviously a billion degrees. I knew I would be paying a bit more to convert to hydrogen peroxide, but as is I’m paying over double, and I’m not even able to be 100%. Thoughts?
My pool is about 10,000 gallons btw.
i have done this before and it worked and i moved houses and now it does not is the heat not intense enough
Hi Joe-
Yes, it can be expensive. I don’t have any advice, as DaNelle no longer has a pool, but had a natural swimming pond put in, which has been working very well for her. If any others have some thoughts or advice please let us know.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thanks.
Try adding a uv light to your filter!!!
Hi Joe,
Not sure if you found a solution yet, but adding shock is 100% counterproductive to using H2O2 as they cancel each other out. It’s tough to maintain, but there are some great pool companies in South FL who use H2O2 as their maintenance. I hope you have had better luck!
Hi Bobby,
Amber here again!
I purchased a sand filter and my water is finally crystal clear but my PH level seems to high according to the test strip. How do I lower ph level with a peroxide pool?
Hi Amber-
Not sure if you mean the water is too acidic or too alkaline. If it is too acidic you can try adding sodium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate, or aerate your pool. If it is too alkaline I’m not sure what would be best to add. Some folks use muriatic acid in chlorine pools, but I do not know if that will be safe to combine with hydrogen peroxide, so I do not suggest trying it. For specific pool issues it is best to contact a local pool company and see if they have the answers to your questions.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Ok thanks.
I mean the water would be too alkaline. The ph test strips show 8 on test strip
Caustic or Sodium Biocarbonate are two ways the ph can be brought down
How do we LOWER the peroxide level? We followed the directions here for the initial shock treatment, and I have triple checked our math. It has been almost a week and the levels are still reading above 100ppm. Our pool is uncovered and it has been hot. My kiddos are anxious to swim and I don’t know what to do. Internet searches bring up nothing helpful.
Hi Monica-
If you are able, add additional water to your pool to dilute it. Also, keep exposing it to sunlight and running your pump and it will begin to decompose.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thank you for getting back to me. It is already full. We have only a filter, not a pump (not really sure the difference). I don’t understand why our levels are high a week later when this post says 6 hours?
Hi Monica-
I am not sure either. There may be something in your water that is prohibiting the levels from going down. I would suggest talking to a local pool store or maintenance company and perhaps having your water tested.
Best of luck with your pool.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Monica,
I have the same problem, followed the direcitons exactly and 8 days later, my levels are still way over 100 ppm and it doesn’t seem to be lowering despite a heat wave. Please keep me posted on if and when your pool levels come down. I will do the same. Thank you.
Kari
It is safe to swim in it up to 1000ppm. I buy my peroxide from PureHealthDiscounts.com and it tells you on there about how to treat your pool with peroxide.
Hi Heather-
No, you do not want it to be at 1000ppm.
This is what DaNelle suggests in her article: “To maintain a clean, sparkling pool, keep your hydrogen peroxide levels between 50 – 90 ppm. Run the pump every night according to your manufacturer’s instructions and change out the filter about every two weeks.”
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have mine at or above 100ppm all the time…stays cleaner that way. You CAN swim just fine in higher amounts. Like Heather states, check out PureHealthDiscounts for more info. You’ll know when it’s too high because your skin will feel “prickly” while swimming. ?
100ppm of peroxide also is safe to swim. You can accelerate decomposition with adding some impurities.
If Hydrogen Peroxide levels are too high, then consider inserting copper metal. Copper reacts with hydrogen peroxide to form water and copper ions plus releasing Oxygen. The equation is: Cu(s) + H2O2(aq) + 2 H+(aq) = Cu2+(aq) + 2 H2O(l)
In the presence of muratic acide, I expect you’ll also notice bubbles forming on the surface of the copper. I like having copper ions in my pool, because the ions further degrade some of the simpler bacteria as a bactericide.
Where do you get copper ions from??
I have a small, 15’ by 4’ deep, above ground pool that I take down every year. Am I still able to use hydrogen peroxide with this pool? And if so, how do I drain the water properly? With chlorine I could wait for levels to go down and then still use the water on the lawn. Is this possible with hydrogen peroxide?
Hi Crystal-
Yes, you can use the hydrogen peroxide with your pool and just drain it as you normally would.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, I realize you don’t have your pool up anymore but have a question… Is the hydrogen peroxide the ONLY thing you were using in your pool to maintain it? If so, that sounds amazing and wonderfully simple! We are actually filling up our new pool right now. Looking forward to your reply, it may just change the direction I was going in, and make things so much easier! Thank you so much.
Hi Melissa-
Yes, DaNelle was using only hydrogen peroxide.
Best of luck with your pool!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I switched to peroxide about 5 weeks ago. It was crystal clear and doing good. A week ago it started getting the light green powder like substance on the bottom. I shocked it with the peroxide. I have the peroxide strips. The green won’t go away now. What could it be? How do I get rid of it? The waters clear this green powdery stuff sits on the bottom. I keep brushing and running the filter. The next day it’s back.
Hi Sheena-
DaNelle has not experienced this problem and she no longer has a pool. There is a possibility it could be algae or pollen. It would be best to contact your local pool supply store and see what information they can offer.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
One of my friends bought a house with a pool but he does not know how to take care of it. I totally agree with you when you said that nobody wants their pool filled with algae. I will suggest to him to contact a pool maintenance company so that he can make sure that his pool will always be ready to jump into.
After adding a whole quart … my pool water is still green … I bought a 17% food grade peroxide which is even stronger . I thought I’d need to use less and it would last longer … I mixed according to directions to equal what u say to use .. did not work then I used the whole quart .. and its still green
PLease help.. 🙁 I want crystal clear water please so me and my sweet grandkids can enjoy the pool this summer
I so look forward to hearing from you
Namaste’
Hi Mary Jo-
The peroxide that DaNelle suggests is 35%. While the link that is in the article goes to a 12%, the directions on the product suggest to use 3x’s of the 12% to equal the 35%. So, I am not sure if that is what you did or not. You may want to check your measurements and make sure the amount used equals the 35% and is applied in an appropriate quantity for the size of your pool as instructed in the article.
250 ml (1 cup) of hydrogen peroxide for every 1000 liters (250 gallons) of water to shock your pool.
You will also want to use the test strips DaNelle suggests in the article to check the ppm of peroxide, trying to keep the levels between 50-90ppm.
If that is not working for you, after your % grade and measurements are checked and verified, you may have some other issues going on and you may have to contact a pool cleaning company to see if there are suggestions they can make.
I hope your water clears up and you have a beautiful pool for both you and your grandkids.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have an established to the beginning of Summer hydrogen peroxide pool 35% food grade I’ve had no problems until yesterday all of a sudden my pool has a green tint to it I don’t know why there’s no chlorine in it it’s been established since the beginning of summer is there I don’t know what to do could somebody please give me some suggestions on how to get it back to the right color this is green color doesn’t work for me
Hi Kimberly-
It depends on what is causing the green color, whether it’s algae or chemicals. It would be best to test the pH levels and also possibly have you water tested to see if there may be anything in your source water that may be causing it. Contacting a pool maintenance company would be beneficial as they have probably seen this issue before.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, We also are using peroxide and was also green. We live in a rural area surrounded by farm land. The pool was pretty good until the corn started taseling. After that it’s been a battle to get it somewhat clear. Using muriatic acid works to keep the acid level in the pool around 7.4. Having the acidity levels right allows the peroxide to do its job
I have an Intex 12’x24’x52” Above-ground pool about 8400 gal.w/ Sand Filter. Installed an UV Ozone generator that is claiming to also generate residual H2O2 in the pool. First and foremost keep your water balanced( TA,pH,TH), The Ozone generator manufacturer recommends 10-20 ppm H2O2 and as high as 40-100 ppm for high bathers load. I’ve been maintaining my level around 20 ppm by adding 0.5 gal 35% Food Grade H2O2 per week.(((pool vol in gal/7500gal) / % H2O2 ) x Desired H2O2 level(20)) = H2O2 ounces needed. In my case, (8400/7500)/0.35 x 20 ppm = 64 fl ounces = 0.5 gal. It’s working for me right now. I may increase the ppm for increased activity.
p/s: I’m also interested in any input on the H2O2 stabilizer ie: Sodium Citrate(Food grade), Sodium Phytate etc.
p/p/s: Danelle or Bobbi: I think it may be beneficial for someone to start an H2O2 Pool Forum to learn/share/generate new development on this subject.
Have you learned anything about the stabilizers like Citric Acid? I found one seller who briefly mentions it and I have asked for additional details.
Hi, Matt!
I have 36000 gal pool and i don” t like chlorine.
After your experience with UV Ozone generator what do you recommend to me.
Thanks.
Mike
We are in our third year with our pool and we have used hydrogen peroxide from the start, however this year we can not get a slightly blue haze to dissipate out of the water. Are there other levels we should be testing besides ppm of the peroxide?
Hi Jerry-
Check your filter and make sure it is operating properly. If if doesn’t clear up and your pH levels are good, try a floccing agent.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I am in the Uk and 35% doesn’t seem available. I found 30% but it’s very expensive at 2.5 liters for 46 pounds… I have a small 8 foot pool (so according to Google it’s 25.600 liters) for me and the kids and wanted to safely disinfect it so this seems the best way.
Wondering if there’s anywhere online I can get it cheap.
Hi Pilar-
All I can suggest to use is the peroxide that is linked in the article that is available on Amazon. Other than that I am not sure of other reliable sources.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have a 30 foot pool above ground pool 4 feet deep. I calculated 52.5 gallons to shock it. Is that correct?
Hi Grace-
You will take the volume of water (in gallons) your pool holds, divide that by 250 (gallons). You will take that answer and divide it by 16 (cups in a gallon).
For example, if you have a 30,000 gallon pool you would take 30,000/250 = 120. 120/16 = 7.5 gallons of peroxide.
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I clicked on link to amazon it says 35% reduced to 12% Israel’s that what I am wanting?
Hi Mark-
Yes, this is what they are offering because Amazon does not list 35%. To use the 12% you will multiple the amount needed by 3 as the instructions say. So, for example, 3 drops of 12% equals 1 drop of 35%. Be sure to follow the instructions.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I am very concerned about added stabilizers and heavy metals to food grade peroxide. How can we know and trust the company? I’ve been using the one that you recommended in the article but became worried that it may have dangerous additives. Would the heavy metals evaporate with the peroxide?
Hi Dawn-
Typically there are not heavy metals in peroxide as these can cause accelerated decomposition. If you have heavy metals already in your water that is a water quality issue and should be dealt with at the source of the water you are using. Heavy metals typically don’t evaporate in water but are removed with ion exchange, membrane filtration, coagulation, etc.
If you need confirmation from the company you are getting the peroxide from you can go on their website or contact them about their data safety sheet and other information they provide.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Is there anything that you know of to lower your H2O2 levels, besides draining or time? I followed some other instructions, that said to use less for start up and did that several days ago. I finally received my test strips yesterday and it showed my H2O2 level to be well over 100!
Just a bit more info. The pool is 3157 gallons, was set up almost 2 weeks ago. No treatment for a week because I was looking for a local business that carried the 35%. Pool got slimy on bottom and sides, scrubbed, vacuumed and added borax to clean. The next morning I added the peroxide – about a quart and a half. Haven’t done anything since. So today is day 4 with nothing added.
Hi Talia-
I’m not sure of any products you can add to lower the levels. Just sun exposure and time is all I can suggest.
I would consider contacting the company you bought the peroxide from and see if they have any solutions.
Best of luck with your pool.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thanks Bobbi! I think the problem might have been with wither the size of the pool, or the efficacy of the filter/pump. The H2O2 just couldn’t stay stable. I would check the levels sometimes twice a day and it would be perfect one time and zero the next or high. So we upgraded the filter/pump, but didn’t get to use it. There was a slight accident and the pool bit the dust. Which was sad, but ok. We spent more on upgrading than we spent on the pool!! So we bought a bigger one and hopefully I will be able to maintain this one better and a whole lot easier!!
Thanks again!
Talia
Hi DaNelle
Do you know anything about Hydrogen Peroxide Stabilizers such as Sodium Citrate (Citric Acid). It is supposed to extend the life and stabilize H2O2 and make it last up to 10-times longer. It is analogous to using Cyanuric Acid for Chlorine
Hi Gary-
Yes, I have heard of the hydrogen peroxide stabilizers, but have not used them for a swimming pool. If anyone has used them for a pool or has additional information to share, we’d love to hear it.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Gary,
I would love to learn more about this! Could you point me to your sources for this information?
Thanks!
Talia
I’m still confused … I followed the link to the hydrogen peroxide and it says it’s 35% reduced to 12%. Attempting to calculate how much would be needed for approximately 15,000 gallon Intex pool.
I wonder if the company stopped selling at the full 35% strength. I’m also curious about citric acid stabilization & wonder if anyone has found out any new information.
Can you add pH up or Ph down to a H2O2 pool? I read an article that recommended an ionizer ..I live in Florida so I’m not sure whether one is needed or not.
Hi Nan-
The peroxide that DaNelle suggests is 35%. Amazon does not sell 35%, but instead the link that is in the article goes to a 12%. The directions on the product suggest to use 3x’s the 12% to equal the 35%. If your swimming pool water is too acidic you can try adding sodium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate, or aerate your pool. I don’t believe an ionizer will affect the pH, only helps to clean and sanitize your pool. For specific pool and local water issues it may be best to contact a local pool company and see if they have the answers to your questions.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi i live in thailand , we have only 50% hydrogen peroxide , can i use that in my pool and if yes how much of it per 500G thanks
Hello-
I have never used the 50% peroxide so I cannot tell you how to add it in appropriate amounts to a pool. If you want to use it, I would make sure you understand all the safety information that goes along with using it and I would contact the manufacturer/seller of the peroxide to make sure it is safe to use in a pool.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hello!
I just bought our first pool. 22×12 and 52” deep.
Water was filled from our well and is quite green/yellow in colour. I added 4 gallons of 35% peroxide in the evening around 7pm. Pump was not going yet as the pool was not quite full enough. I turned the pump on in the morning and let it run all day. No colour change. I added another gallon last night and let the pump run all night and still no difference. Pool is still just as green/yellow.
I don’t have any test strips yet. Waiting for them in the mail but have I not added enough to clear the water?
Hi Amber-
It sounds like your pH is off and you may have excess iron in your water. You should have you water tested for pH and metals.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I currently use the Baquacil system for my above ground pool. Is going with the peroxide only system cheaper to use on a monthly consistent basis? My pool is a 4’x14′ above ground.
Hi Amy-
I’m sorry but DaNelle does not have experience with the Baquacil system, so unfortunately I can’t give an answer. My best suggestion is to talk with your local pool stores and/or contractors. They may have experience with one or the other, or both.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thanks for this info. Would covering the pool to BLOCK sunlight when not in use reduce amount of H2o2 needed? That insulated cover could be black and block sunlight instead of clear, allowing it in? Or, actually, any plastic cover should block UV, just as a glass window or sunglasses do, right? Also, thanks for the HILARIOUS redneck comment. As my hubby might say, “I resemble that!” lol
Hi Jan-
I would caution against doing that, because the hydrogen peroxide needs sunlight and heat to activate it to eliminate the nutrients that bacteria & algae feed on. Not allowing enough sunlight may not keep your pool at safe levels.
I hope that helps! And yes, lol on the redneck comments!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have a persistent mustard algae problem in my below ground plastered pool. I need to keep the pool clean until August when we will have it pumped out and replastered. The same water has been in the pool for at least 40 years. The cyanuric acid concentration, which is through the roof from using cheap granular chlorine, prevents the chlorine from doing its job.
Do you think H2O2 is the answer for me?
I am not sure what the ‘diatomaceous earth pump’ is that you caution us from using with H2O2. We have a diatomaceous earth/membrane filter. Are you saying that the H2O2 will break down the diatomaceous earth or the filter elements?
Hi Jim-
With an issue like that I am not sure if it can help you. It would be best to consult a pool professional at this point.
Hydrogen peroxide should not be used with diatomaceous earth pool filters, as high concentrations can turn the filter to sludge.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Danelle
Hope you are enjoying life 🙂
in this method, can I water my garden from pool’s water?
Hi Pasha-
Yes, you can use the pool water to water the garden.
I hope all is well with you!
Thank you for reading and posting!
-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi DaNelle
Any ideas for how we can have an above ground pool without electricity? The only flat land we have is too far away from the house to use an extension cord.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Lisa (New Zealand)
Hi Lisa-
I’m not sure how you can run a pool without electricity. I know some folks install solar powered pumps so they don’t have to connect to their main electrical systems. If you find a way let us know.
Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Use maybe you could use a wind turbine to drive your pump instead of an electric motor…
Hi Scott-
Thanks for the suggestion! Maybe that could work for some folks.
Thanks! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
We have a 12 foot ish above ground pool and wondering if the H2)2 affects the lining?
Thanks for the product. I hope it will work for us.
Hi Kai-
Hydrogen peroxide works with most liners just fine. It can degrade natural rubber products, but most pools use synthetic rubber components these days. If you are concerned though I would check with the company you purchased the liner from just to make sure. I hope that helps!
Thank you
-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi there,
We converted to 35% Hydrogen Peroxide for our pool this year. We had a UV filter and a new sand filter installed just for this. And the pool had never been clearer! However, now at the end of the summer, our pool is slightly green and we can’t seem to remedy it. Can muriatic acid be used in conjunction with hydrogen peroxide to clear up the issue? I added Baquacil algaecide today (not sure if it will even work) but would like to use something purer moving forward. Thanks!
Erin
Hi Erin-
I have heard of mixing those chemicals for etching, but I do not know about for pools. I hear they can give off fumes and I do not know if they would be safe to mix. I would contact your local pool chemical vendor and see what they say. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, I have a pool that is about 20 years old. It is a fiberglass shell and has a natural gas pool heater that might have copper coils (I’m not 100% sure). I currently use chlorine tablets and shock to sanitize it, but want to use your products. Do you know if it would be compatible with the setup I described?
Thank you!
Hi Justin-
I haven’t tried this before, but I am guessing it would be ok. Hydrogen peroxide is used to clean fiberglass tubs and copper coins without damage. To get the full go ahead on this though, I would talk to a couple of your local pool companies to get their feedback. Let us know if you try it.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have an Intex 10ft round pool that we have been treating the water with the hydrogen peroxide 35% that you suggested. The peroxide is holding fine, but, this week we started seeing what looks like shite tissue paper floating in the pool. Researched it and found out it is white mold. Almost everyone says that you don’t see that in chlorinated pools. I don’t want to use chlorine because our pool feels so fresh and looks clear other than the white mold. Any natural suggestions of how to combat our white mold issue?
Hi Anne-
White mold and pink slime can be problems in any pool system and can be difficult to get rid of. This link will take you to a product called AquaFinesse. Their webpage and imbedded video have some good info on white mold and pink slime. Hopefully this will help you combat the problem. Best of luck. Thank you -Bobbi (Danelle’s Assistant)
Hi,
I ordered the peroxide through your link, but am confused regarding it’s concentration percentage. According to the title and product description it’s actually 12% and not 35%. I’ve also compared the information to other stores/sites, and according to everything read I’m seeing the product shared in the article is 35% reduced to 12%. I’ve also read that it’s not uncommon for company’s to advertise, price, and list peroxide concentration at one number but it truly being reduced to another, and most missing this thinking they’re purchasing full concentration at 35%. Is this still the same product you use regularly for your pool? Can you explain this to me?
Hi Stephanie-
The % isn’t a big deal, just use 2x’s as much and it will work the same. This supplier is the best DaNelle has found and really recommends them. I hope that helps. Thanks! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hello. We are using the h2O2 system. We too have a well and are having some issues (I now believe after reading previous comments) due to hard water.
1) I was wondering what you suggest shocking the pool with? And,
2) how do you close the pool for the season using H2O2 type system?
(Things we probably should have figured out before actually doing it?)
Hi A-
You can try shocking your pool with this method:
-Add 35% concentrated food-grade hydrogen peroxide at a ratio of 1 cup to 250 gallons of water to your pool.
-Start the pump to circulate the solution and then shut off the pump to allow the peroxide to work for 24 hours before swimming.
-After the initial shock, test your pool each week to ensure adequate concentrations of hydrogen peroxide (~30-50ppm or 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide to 500 gallons).
To winterize your pool you want to be sure to balance your pool water (pH, etc.), add an algaecide, and clean your pool and filters. This document can help guide you. https://apsp.org/Portals/0/RWQ%20Fact%20Sheets/2014-10-02%20FS%20Winterizing%20A%20Pool%20Final.pdf
I hope that helps out. Best of luck with your pool. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi I’m a little bit confused about using h2o2. What other additives do I have to use to maintain a healthy heated spa ? Thank you …Mike
Hi Mike-
This article gives some good info if you are thinking about using H2O2 in your hot tub. https://www.ozoneservices.com/articles/008.htm
I hope that helps.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Does it work for well water?
Hi Sarah-
Yes, this will work with well water. Complications could possibly arise if you have hard water (high mineral content such as calcium and/or magnesium) or problem with iron and manganese. But it really should work just fine. I hope that helps!
Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Bobbi,
I have a 15,000 gallon Intex pool and would like to convert to either a salt (chlorine generator) system or peroxide. I purchased the salt converter but have not installed, because like you I was really hoping for a natural pool using a spillway from our pond (too many snakes and an occasional gator quickly shut that idea down).
Is there any need for the saltwater chlorine generator using a peroxide system? I have little Grands (kiddos) & am trying to find the least harsh system for them and myself.
We will be building our own inground pool starting next year & id love to have it figured out before hand. My calculations say I would need about around 3 cups at 35% to start .. Does that sound correct?
Thanks
Hi Nan-
I am not aware that there is a need for a saltwater chlorine generator when using a peroxide system.
As for the amount of peroxide you need to maintain your pool it is 1 cup for every 500 gallons of water. So, if you have a 15,000 gallon pool you would divide that by 500 gallons giving you 30 cups (60 cups to shock it).
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, I’m trying to order the 35% Hydrogen Peroxide from the link you provided; but the website is very confusing. I see at least two different kinds/labels of peroxide on that link. One is “Guadian of Eden” & the other “Pure Health Discounts.” Which one did you use?
Hi Jackie-
DaNelle used the Pure Health Discounts brand. Hope that helps!
Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi!
We built a beautiful natural pool (8500-10000 gallons) here in Texas but struggle to keep it clear We’re now in the process of selling our home and already struggle with people understanding a natural pool to begin with. Is there a way we can use our existing set up and use Hydrogen as you recommend to clear it up? Can we use our with our current pump. (We have no plants or fish in it but it just looks slightly murky. It’s only 3.5-4.5′ deep but we can’t see the bottom.)
Hoping you can help!
Hi Jessica-
DaNelle hasn’t tried turning a pool around with hydrogen peroxide, but it would be worth giving it a shot. You may also want to look up using baking soda. If none of that works you might look for a natural pond person in your area or maybe even contacting the folks that helped put DaNelle’s all together. https://pondscapesaz.com
Best of luck with your pond and selling your house!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi DaNelle….. we’re trying this hydrogen peroxide pool thing. We have really good results when we added the 2.6 gallons for our initial start on an above ground 10500 gallon pool. However to keep it above the 50 ppm I’m having to add more than a gallon every few days. I’m using your source for peroxide but for the life of me can’t figure out why I’m needing so much peroxide. Live in Kansas…. temps right around 90. Not a lot of swimming…. just occasional. Any ideas or help? TIA
Hi Francine-
I am guessing increasing temperatures, direct sunlight, and possibly hard water (high mineral content such as calcium and/or magnesium, or problem with iron and manganese) are causing the issue. If the issue continues after temperatures cool down I would have your water quality checked and also talk with a pool expert to see if there are modifications you can make. Best of luck!
Thank you-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
HI Francine,
I know your reply was 3 years ago, but was wondering if you found out why your pool was needed so much? My pool is doing the same thing. I add the peroxide, and the level is fine, and then within 3 days, almost down to nothing. I am in Florida, and its not even that warm yet. Thanks in advance if you see this!
I’m confused. Your instructions say to keep your hydrogen peroxide levels between 50 – 90 ppm, but the test strips you link to only tell you if the levels are between 30 and 100. Are you just estimating what the color should look like if it’s between 50-90?
Hi Susan-
Yes, with these test strips it would be an estimate. A bit darker than the 30, but lighter than the 100. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I ended up returning the test strips and instead ordered the ones from the company you recommended for H202 purchase. They are cheaper and more accurate.
Good deal. I hope that works out for you!
Hi DaNelle!
I am trying to get my neglected frog pond pool ready to swim in, lol. We just poured 1 gallon of hydrogen peroxide in it yesterday about 4PM (pool is about 3,000 gallons). We ran the pump for 2 hours which should have been long enough to circulate the water.
It has been about 16 hours, should I be concerned the water is still brown?? I know the pump circulated the water because it brought leaves from the bottom of the pool to the top. If it is cloudy, does that affect the shock process? Doesn’t the H2O2 need UV light to work? Do you think I should pour more H2O2 in it?
Thanks!
Katie A.
Hi Katie-
The thing with hydrogen peroxide is that it is better at maintaining a pool, than it is at cleaning it up. So, I am not sure it can bring your pool back to clean and clear. You are right though, hydrogen peroxide does need UV light to work, so it may be too murky to work. Make sure your filter is working properly (and that you are not using a DE filter), as even in a regular pool if the filter isn’t working the water will be cloudy.
After you check that your filter is working properly you can try shocking your pool with this method:
-Add 35% concentrated food-grade hydrogen peroxide at a ratio of 1 cup to 250 gallons of water to your pool.
-Start the pump to circulate the solution and then shut off the pump to allow the peroxide to work for 24 hours before swimming.
-After the initial shock, test your pool each week to ensure adequate concentrations of hydrogen peroxide (~30-50ppm or 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide to 500 gallons).
I hope that helps out. Best of luck with your pool. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hey Bobbi,
I have already added 1 gallon of H2O2 in an attempt to shock the pool. As it is only about 3,500 gallons that is a little more than what is needed to attain 1 cup for 250 gallons.
The water is still brown from algae, since I did not use it last 2 years. I tested the H2O2 level and it said only 10ppm after circulating the water and letting ig sit 24 hours. I think you are right in saying it is not as effective at clearing the water maybe more so keeping it clear.
If my pool wasn’t so neglected it would probably work as shock.
Anyway, I think my plan is to shock it with chlorine just to clear it up then run the filter pump (brand new I know it works) and let it sit for a day or 2 before swimming. I have a 5 month old son, and I do not want him in the water with chlorine. I should be able to maintain with H2O2 once I get the water clear.
Thanks for your quick response and advice!
– Katie
Shocking it with chlorine is probably a good option. I hope it clears it up. And also a good plan to wait a day or more before swimming in it, especially for your son. Have a good summer!
Hi there DaNelle! We have an inground pool that we converted to hydrogen peroxide a couple years ago. I have Hashimotos and feel safe going in the pool. We did a pool renovation in the fall and had to refill the pool with our well water. Now we’re having ph issues with it. I’m wondering what you have found to be the safest for balancing ph (sodium bicarbonate or baking soda)? Thanks!
Hi Phoenix-
If your swimming pool water is too acidic you can try adding sodium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate, or aerate your pool. I hope that helps! Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have the same problem, except Crest Syndrome (a lot of autoimmune disorders) & for some reason the C-acid (pool stabilizer) increased dramatically over the few months the pool was not used. I had issues with ph and alkalinity and used baking soda (a few pounds at a time) & my pH levels have stabilized, the alkalinity is right on target. The rest of this summer I added about 1.5-2 cups of baking soda a week -it has kept pH stable as well giving me crystal clear water.
I did exactly the way it was said in my pool and it didn’t work. After 3 months trying to get the treatment with peroxide I had to give up and go back to the chlorine again. So sad!
That sounds awesome. I would love to try peroxide for my 12′ above ground pool because I can’t tolerate chlorine at all, not even the saltwater system, but I do have a question: How do you prevent frogs from laying eggs in the pool? It was a nightmare with me. Any ideas for how to keep them away would be most welcomed!
Question #2- would the water bleach my hair? (I used to lighten my hair with peroxide/water, but stopped due to split ends, brittle hair, etc.)
Thanks! I love reading your blog.
Hi Laura-
Keeping frogs out of your pool can be tricky. This link here has some great tips: https://www.swimuniversity.com/frogs-in-pool/
As for peroxide in a pool bleaching your hair, in my experience with peroxide pools I have had minimal lightening and my hair was much less brittle and damaged in comparison to a standard chlorine pool.
I hope that helps. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have to admit, if I converted my pool to a natural swimming pool, I’d kinda miss that chlorine smell that sticks to you after a swim. It reminds me of bein’ a kid!
I just got an above ground pool and ordered the h peroxide and testing strips. Know nothing about pools! Learning it all now, but knew I detest the thought of chlorinated water. Thank you, I am very excited to try out the products you indicated. One question: For a 1300 gallons pools, how much hydrgen peroxide will I have to use? Starting from new fresh water! Thanks!
Would you tell me how it is going? From here did you buy? I am in Florida and can’t find the hydrogen peroxide. Not even in ebay!!
A hardware store may be the best bet. It’s where I bought mine because they sell it for the farmers. Maybe a feed and supply store maybe best to check out as well.
Hi, thank you so much for writing this article. I live in northern British Columbia Canada and with all the icy cold rivers around us my children are not getting as much water time as I would like and therefore their swimming abilities are suffering. I have put off buying an above ground pool for the reasons of all the chemicals needed. We grow 90% of our own food in our organic garden and I try to do everything as natural as I can. You give me hope!! I have a few questions for you, hopefully this thread is still active. ?.
1- have you heard anything about the hydrogen peroxide breaking down the pvc walls of the pool?
2- in regards to pumps you mention that a salt water pump might one day be of interest to you, do you feel that a salt water system would be even “healthier” to the hydrogen peroxide treatments?
3- I plan on buying a sand pump to keep my pool clean, do you think the two ( hydrogen treatments and sand pump ) would be compatible?
Thank you so so much for your research and for your time. I appreciate so deeply your passion to share your knowledge in keeping our bodies, and those of our children, more healthy.
Sincerely, Jessica.
Just a heads up, the link you have to purchase the product is a fraud. The company doesnt have a working number and emails are not answered. Beware, if you try to order something and give them your credit card info!! Something smells fishy!!
They’re not, I’ve ordered through them multiple times. They just have a really old-looking site.
I just ordered on them without any problem last week. I didn’t talk to them though, I just ordered online.
Do you have a protocol for closing your pool for the winter? We used peroxide all last summer and loved it but there was quite a bit of algae when we opened it. Getting ready to shock it again but wondered what you guys did.
Do you have to worry about ph and all the other levels? Or is that just with chlorine?
Thanks!
I didn’t have to worry about pH that much:)
Hallo, I used hydro peroxide and it worked very well, and then Saturday I decided to change to chlorine and through allout in the pool, and suddenly the water turned into a brown colour. We use well water, but now I am not sure what to do. Do you think I can you hydro peroxide to change it again. The reason for change was that it is very costy. Can you help maybe.
Hmm, that’s odd, I haven’t ever had that happen! I would think it had something to do with the switch.
I am just wondering why you put chorine…. let me know. Didn’t you like peroxide?
Hello DaNelle
I did the same as you last year (I live in South Africa, so gets very hot here:)….
I turned off my filtration system during the winter months and now I have a VERY green pool.
I have added 8 litres of H202 over the past 2 days, let the filter run for long periods and taken off the pool cover…still it remains stubbornly dark grey…do you have any suggestions?
Thanking you in advance. 🙂
Sorry that should read dark GREEN not grey!
Hi Rebecca,
From what I have read, it’s tough for H202 to reverse the algae, they do much better at preventing it. You might want to shock the pool for now, then move towards H202 for maintenance.
Order you a Slime Bag filter from Amazon. It does help, you may have to do some vacuuming also but after about 24 – 48 hrs our pool was cleared up.
I have read that copper sulfate will remove the algae but I don;t know because I don’t have experience with it. I also don;t know how copper sulfae will react with hydrogen peroxide.
DaNelle,
Interesting experience you’ve had. Essentially what you have done is created an ozone treated pool without the ozone generator since both O3 and H2O2 will break down to release a free radical Oxygen atom that is doing the work for you. You might compare the cost of buying, running and maintaining an ultra-violet ozone generator with the $150/month you are spending on peroxide. While we don’t use ozone in the natural swimming pools we design, I absolutely prefer ozone over chlorine.
One point to remember, that free oxygen that hasn’t bonded with another compound wants to get out of the pool so you will lose more of it when there is activity in the pool or when wind is blowing. Cheers!
How can I do with ozone?
Were can get hydro peroxide at please
Hi Mag, I link to it in the supplies section above.
If we do have a DE pump, can we just change out the filters?
That’s a really good question, I thought about the same thing! I would think as long as you could change out the part that was DE, it would be good!
is it a good option for an in ground pool?
Yes!
This is perfect timing for our family! Thank you so much for doing the research on this. My husband has been doing chlorine shocks and I have not been able to find a reasonable substitution to chlorine until now. I enjoy hearing about sunny AZ too!
Great!
Where do you get the 35% Hydrogen Peroxide?
Hi Liz,
In the article, I have a link to the brand I use:)
I am still trying and don’t find the link to buy peroxide from the place you said you buy. I bought from Amazon, 2 gallons and didn’t do anything because it was water inside the gallons. I had drops on my hand and on my leg, and it didn’t burn the way it should. I bought it again from another seller, and it was said it’d be here yesterday and it didn’t arrive yet. My pool has no treatment for 3 months! I need to buy hydrogen.
Hi Neuza-
The link in the article takes you to the site to purchase the hydrogen peroxide. This is the link to the page: https://www.purehealthdiscounts.com/h2o2.htm
Good luck with your pool.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
What type/brand of pool and pump do you have?
I have an Intex above ground pool, with a standard pump.