Buy ALL the goats!
If you love goats, want to buy all the goats, and your husband has to block you from Craigslist because all you do all day is search for more adorable goats…
This post is JUST for you!
Why you need a goat (or 20):
I think the first question you should ask yourself is “Why not buy goats?”
I mean, seriously, is there anything cuter than an adorable tiny goat? And is there anything cuter than adorable tiny goats romping around the yard? And is there anything cuter than an adorable tiny goat making its tiny adorable goat sounds?
I submit that there is not.
So, whether or not you want to buy a goat for milking or just as a pet, today I’m going to give you my guide for purchasing the perfect goat. You’re welcome.
A Simple Guide to Buying your First Goat:
Choose a breed
There are a lot of different breeds of goats.
- Dairy breeds: Nubian, La Mancha, Alpine, Oberhasli, Toggenburg, Saanen, Sable, and Nigerian Dwarf goats.
- Meat breeds: Spanish, Tennessee, Boer, and Kiko goats.
- Fancy-pants breeds that produce fibers for fabric: Angora and Cashmere goats.
- And then there are the fun pet breeds: Pygmy and Fainting goats.
Your best breed choice really depends on what you are using your goat for. Think carefully!
Are mixed breeds okay?
Yes, mixed breeds are fine. Actually, they will be cheaper in comparison to purebred registered goats. The pros are that you can buy a goat sooner (because you won’t have to wait around for a particular breed to come up for sale) and you can spend less money. The biggest con is that you won’t be able to show your goat at a fair or FFA event in the future. The goat registries (yes, they’re a real thing) won’t register your goat unless it’s purebred, with one exception. Nubian-Nigerians are also called Mini-Nubians, and are beginning to be recognized as their own breed.
What about de-horning and vaccinations?
Well, it’s true. Goats do have horns. And most people like to raise goats that are de-horned. The proper term is actually “dis-budded.” This is the name for a goat who’s had its “buds” removed as a baby. When the buds are removed, they can’t develop into horns. Problem solved.
As sad as it is to see goats dis-budded, keep in mind that goats with horns can fight with each other and possibly harm/kill one another and are a danger to humans as well. We once had a goat with horns and once caught my husband on the ear when it reared its head back (he was NOT happy). So the moral of the story here is to opt for goats that are dis-budded.
What about vaccinations? Most veterinarians will recommend you vaccinate goats for clostridium perfringens (types C and D) and tetanus (CDT). We vaccinate our goats every spring. Babies should have been vaccinated at 8 weeks & 12 weeks. (and their mamas should have been vaccinated 4 weeks before kidding)
How do I know if the goat I want is healthy?
When you visit the farm to purchase your goat, check out the surroundings. Is the place clean? Is it dirty? Is there a “normal” amount of animals, or does the place seem overrun and the seller seem like an animal hoarder?
The one thing you have to remember with animals is that they do best when living in a natural environment with plenty of space. You don’t want to see animals in small cages, living in large amounts of poop, or too many animals in the same area. If the owner has provided a clean, healthy living conditions for their goats, chances are, they have put time and care into their animals.
How do I know if the goat has a good personality?
This is the best thing about goats—they all have a wide range of personalities! There are some that are calm and chill, some that are dramatic and hilarious, and some that are just plain annoying and stupid. Hey, I’m just keepin’ it real. Every family has at least one, right?
The most important thing to look for is a goat that enjoys being fed and touched by humans. If you visit a farm and the goat you want runs they other way (and a group of you has to chase it down!), then you’ll probably want to choose another goat. If the goat is friendly and playful, not skittish or wild, then you’ve found your goat!
What do goats eat?
Most people are shocked to find out that goats are NOT GRAZERS. If you put your goat in your backyard and expect it to mow it for you, it wouldn’t be very happy.
Why? Goats are browsers, not grazers. They will still eat some grass, but they prefer a VARIETY of green vegetation. So, they’ll pick at weeds, pick at grass, nibble on hay, etc. This is why goats are so good at clearing away overgrown properties, because those properties usually have a lots of choices. Goats love it.
We feed our goats alfalfa hay/bermuda grass pellets, along with some regular alfalfa hay for them to nibble on. They also get to browse our yard for weeds and other grasses that look good to them. My husband will also cut down branches and let the goats go crazy over the leaves.
Do goats need any grain/feed mixes?
One HUGE mistake first time goat owners make is that they feed their brand new baby goat a grain feed mix from the local feed store. Do you know what that causes? Constipation. Trust me, the last thing you want is a constipated goat.
The truth about grain is that it is only necessary if your goat is milking and you need something to feed it at the milking stand. The only other exception to this is if you want to give a small treat every once in a while. Grain IS NOT something you feed everyday.
Do goats need any supplements?
I have a blog post HERE all about feeding goats.
How do I get over the adorable-ness of my new goat?
This one you’ll have to figure out for yourself, because I still haven’t figured it out yet!
I forgot about one more thing that a reader reminded me about. Be sure to ask the owner for test results that show the herd is CAE and CL free. CAE and CL are goat (and sheep) diseases that can really make them sick down the road.
What do I look for in a good milking goat? Watch my video below!
So, how are you feeling? Are you ready to go buy all the goats?
how long is your guy’s waitlist right now?
Hi Cana-
There’s about 150 people on the list, with interests in different goats.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Elyzabeth-
The plan sounds fine if it works for you and keeps your goats healthy, happy, and safe. Hopefully you can find a friend for the wether since they do not like to be alone.
If they already have horns and they are grown, you can remove them but you must have a vet do this as it now requires surgery.
As for the vaccinations, this is how DaNelle vaccinates: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goat-vaccinations/
This is how DaNelle feeds: https://www.weedemandreap.com/optimal-nutritional-goat-diet/
This article talks about what is poisonous to goats: https://fiascofarm.com/goats/poisonousplants.htm
Best of luck with everything!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I love your blog! I want to but all the goats! I just got my first Nigerian Dwarf! Thank you?
Hi Danelle, LOVE your writing here. Appreciate the info because i am lost. I got two dwarf goats from a neighbor and can’t get enough info, birth date, test, shots. Was told they were dis-budded but the horns tell me it wasn’t enough, my legs are a mess! I have dwarf Nigerian mix and Dwarf Pygmy. The pygmy adores me, comes to me every time, loves me to brush her and yet the ND will not; skittish and after months still will not bond. Now the third little wether is suffering. they wont let him in their sleeping area- he retreats to the igloo, and they butt him really hard. I am fencing off another area for him next to theirs to safely run and sleep, but it leaves him alone, he tries so hard too! Ive been offered a kiddie to companion him, but I want a ‘bonder’ and I think the pygmies are better at that with me. I am starting their shots s if they had none, since no info is concise and then deworm them all. Does that sound ‘sound? My plan is to get into milking but keep my two pygmys as companion and maybe breed once or twice.any suggestions to increase possible bonding? do I have to accept horned now because these were(?) but are full on size now…? … I removed many plants, shrubs etc, but I have mulberry- non fruit- and eucalyptus, tea trees, re those safe?
I wouldn’t buy them all maybe 1 for a pet probably a doe I would go by how the goats living area is if it has any disease or not when i do buy one and how it looks
I’m trying to decide either once I do buy a dairy goat or a pygmy goat i know pygmy goats are smaller cause I’ve seen 3 before and I like that size of them like a medium size dog but i haven’t seen any dairy goats.
Nigerians are even smaller than Pygmy goats and are really good milkers
Is there a time of year best for buying new goats? Is it a problem if it is winter or fall?
Hi Elisabeth-
You can buy goats anytime as long as you have proper shelter, food, water, and space for them.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hey do you know if she has any goats for sale?
Hello Ellie-
You can sign up for the waiting list here and you will be notified: https://wolftreeranch.com/goats-for-sale/
That website has all the info on costs, shipping, etc.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Also do they need toys beside thing they can jump on?
Hi Alanna-
No, not really.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
where do the goats sleep or what do they sleep on?
Hi Alanna-
Goats can sleep in a barn or other shelter they have. Some even sleep in the pasture, but it is best to bring them in at night. They sleep on straw, hay, pine shavings, or whatever soft clean bedding is provided.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
What’s the smallest breed of goat for a pet?
Hi Makayla-
The Nigerian Dwarf or Pygmy goat breeds are the smallest.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hey there, if purchasing registered goats as a first time goat owner, do I need to be adga registered first or after I buy the goats? Basically am I restricted from buying adga register goats?
Hi Brooklyn-
No, you are not restricted from buying them. However, if the goat is being transferred the costs are reduced. You can check out their website for information and if you have further questions: https://adga.org/member-benefits/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Two days ago I brought home two 4 week old Doelings. One takes to a bottle like a champ. One hates it. they both will eat pellets and hay. I don’t know what to do. I have so many different opinions coming at me and I’m scarred she’s going to get sick.
Do I keep her from all food for a while and then try and get her to take the bottle again?
Do I give her more pellets and hay?
Are there minerals or something else I can giver her to help her not to get sick?
Help!
Hi Jacquie-
If a baby goat has been nursing from its mom and then you switch it to a bottle it can have difficulty taking the bottle. Even if it was taking a bottle before, this new situation is very upsetting and it may not want to take the bottle, especially if what you are feeding her is different than what she was drinking before.
Keep offering the bottle, even if she only gets a little at a time. Do offer the bottle several times a day if possible. Keep offering her other food too, especially hay and grass, pellets are good too. You can offer free choice minerals. Here is DaNelle’s suggestions on minerals: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
Watch her to see if she is gaining weight and going to the bathroom. Also, note if she is very vocal, because a hungry goat will cry a lot. She does still need a bottle because it is best not to wean a goat until after 8 weeks.
Do not put water in the bottle, only offer water as free choice in a tank/bowl/trough.
Best of luck with your baby goats.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I want to buy a baby Nubian goat but i don’t have the money for two of them i do have a four year old black lab that is very friendly. Would the goat be okay if it didn’t have another of its kind but instead my dog.
Hi Oasis-
It is best for goats to have two or more goats to live with. While your lab may keep it company some of the time, most likely your goat will be lonely and become vocal. I would recommend waiting to get goats until you can afford two, or look to find if anyone near you may be selling goats at a cheaper price than where you are currently looking.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Recently bought 2 pygmy goats both male and both are 3 months old. They dont have mothers and they have really uncomfortable with me. what do i do to make them feel comfortable and happy with me.
Hi Muhammad-
For goats to feel comfortable with you it will take some time. Spend a little time with them each day, talking to them, brushing them, and allowing them to get used to you.
After a few weeks they will begin to warm up to you. Just be patient and gentle with them and they will come around.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
What is the minimum number of goats I should have in order for them to be happy? Thanks!
Hi Noelle-
Having at least 2 goats will keep them happy. Thank you
-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Heya,
I would like to buy goats from you guys sometime, is there a place in this website when I can do that? Would like to know for the future when I get a house with space for them ?
Hi Katerine-
When DaNelle has goats for sale she posts them here: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-for-sale/
You can fill out the waiting list form.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I am interested in buy either a goat, sheep, or chickens. I have 3 small children 5yrs, twin 1yr olds and would like some advice on the best options. We have a medium sized back yard. Live in Ipswich Qld.
Thank you in advance
Hi Makarla-
It depends on if you are raising animals for food or as pets. Goats make good pets and can give you meat and milk (if you breed them). If you have goats, you will need at least two because they get very lonely and very vocal. Chickens are the easiest to raise and can give you eggs and meat, but don’t always make the best pets. Sheep are a good option if you are looking to raise meat.
Here are some articles to give you information on all three and how to have a backyard farm:
https://www.weedemandreap.com/raising-baby-chicks-beginners-guide/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/raising-backyard-chickens-city/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/6-reasons-keep-backyard-chickens/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-much-space-need-raise-goats/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-much-does-a-goat-cost/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-to-raise-grass-fed-lamb-like-a-boss/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/hoa-approved-backyard-farm/
I hope that helps with your selection! Best of luck!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Do you have any baby girl gloat for sale and were do you live
Please let me no ASAP from Sam
Hi Samantha-
DaNelle doesn’t have any goats for sale right now, but you can check this link anytime to see what goats she is selling: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-for-sale/
DaNelle lives in Arizona and usually only sells to those living within the state.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hello, I now have my corral built for my mini horse that I plan on getting and another corral right next to the horse one. I would love to get some dwarf goats but would like to know if you have to milk the all doe’s or if you never start will they not produce any milk? I really would like to get doe’s and not males. Can you please help me with an answer on this matter.
Thom
Hi Thom-
That’s great you are thinking about getting goats. Does will only produce milk once they are freshened (had babies). So, if you do not breed them they will not produce milk. Even if you did choose to breed them, and their milk came in once the babies were born, you still do not have to milk them, the babies can simply drink the milk. I hope that helps. Best of luck!
Thank you-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I recently adopted a 1 year old Pygmy doe and two Nigerian Dwarf/Pygmy mix kids (one Doeling and one Buckling). I want to breed them for milk and possibly to sell as pets. Do you know anything about milk quality from mixed breed does?
Love your videos!
Hi Chele-
Milk quality from mixed breed does is no different than purebred does. However, purebred dairy breeds will produce larger quantities of milk. I hope that helps. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
For months now I’ve been preparing for goats and finally took in our two beautiful Nigerian Dwarf does. We’re in an urban neighborhood that allows us to keep two (very lucky) but while I thought I had mentally prepared ourselves for their vocal nature I’m realizing this is hard with neighbors who weren’t as prepared, even with prepping and apologies. How long are we looking until they settle in? And where do you find balance with how long it’s appropriate to spend time with them so they’re developing healthy attachment? One still needs bottle feeding and we enjoy the snuggles. We want to do this right from the start so we don’t struggle with this for longer than needed, for us and the girls and so our neighbors don’t kick them out. It’s heart breaking to listen to their cries of lament.
Hi Danielle-
Goats take about a couple weeks until they settle in. Once they do they usually quiet down and you shouldn’t have to worry about them. Taking time with with your goats when you feed them and also working with them a few minutes here and there in between feedings is a good start to building a relationship with them. I hope that helps. Best of luck with your new goats. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
It did thank you very much for your reply! We actually ended up giving them a few small natural treats, like sunflower or pumpkin seeds, strictly and only when we would leave our visits with them so they wouldn’t associate our leaving as a negative thing but as a positive experience. Fortunately, it worked out well and they no longer cry. Along with our established bottle feeding routine (knock on wood) I think we have a settled tiny herd that seem very happy now. The neighbors are also happy and have welcomed the opportunity to come and visit.
Loved the video! We currently have a herd of 12 goats and it makes me want to milk them now! Question, have the babies been weaned from these mamas or are they still supplying their babies in addition to being milked? Thanks
Hi Kasie-
After the kids are a couple weeks old you can begin milking the does. You will need to separate the kids from the does at night. You can milk in the morning and then allow the doe and kids to be together during the day and they will nurse from her. You can also wean the babies if you want and go that route. I hope that helps. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
We want some goats as a companion for our aging horse. Prefarably not a jumper. I had Nubians before and didn’t have a problem with them jumping on stuff. Do fainting goats jump?
Hi Tami-
Goats do make nice companions for horses. I have had Nubians that were both jumpers and non-jumpers, it was really just dependent upon the goat. As for fainting goats, they are actually kept by many because of the ability to keep them enclosed rather easily. Because of their fainting condition (muscles seizing up), they tend not to climb or jump. They may be a good option for you. Let us know if you choose to get them. Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Well I made the plunge. I bought two goats will be here end of the month. But have you here for support and some friends 5miles down the road for help also. I;m so excited. So no trying to figure out about shelter and pen (on 20 acre )Here I have to worry about bears and cougars. So I want to keep close to house. My milk demands are high so got nubian/alpine with a bit of LaMunn thrown in and both are expecting in April.We are milk drinkers and eat lots of yogurt
Hi Cindi-
Congrats on getting goats! I am sure it will all go very well!
Here are some links to articles DaNelle has written about farm planning and fencing. While on a smaller scale, I thought they may still be helpful to you.
https://www.weedemandreap.com/backyard-farm-designs/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/building-goat-pen-step-step-videos/
Best of luck with everything! And Happy Goating! Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Really thinking about getting 2 nigerian goats for pets/fun. My children are pumped. When you get the baby goats, do they get housed in barn/shed set-up right away? Or are they like ducklings/chicks? And you keep them warm and in garage until a certain age? We live in Wisconsin. So it does not get above 60 consistently until May. We have chickens. I also trying to figure out ideal set-up barn/shed/pen. Any ideas? Thanks much!
Hi Bernadette-
Depending on the age you get your goats will determine where they need to be kept. If they are under 3 weeks I would keep them in a garage for warmth and so you can check on them, and make it easy to feed them the multiple times of day they need to be fed. Here is an article DaNelle wrote on caring for baby goats:
https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-to-care-for-baby-goats/
As pen setup these articles can help you out:
https://www.weedemandreap.com/building-goat-pen-step-step-videos/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/efficient-pasture-rotation-goats/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-much-space-need-raise-goats/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/backyard-farm-designs/
I hope this helps! Best of luck and Happy Goating! Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Looking to sell a few Alpacas and get a few goats. Housed in same barn but separated. Does that sound right?
How much cold can they take? They will be in hay our of wind in barn.
Is there a difference in temperment with males and females? Can they live together if males are fixed?
THANKS
Hi Carol-
I have never personally put goats and alpacas together, but there are no issues with housing them together, especially if they have their own space. Goats can tolerate the cold quite well as long as they have a shelter (which it sounds like you have) and are properly fed and kept healthy. Here’s some links on what goats need to maintain proper health:
https://www.weedemandreap.com/what-do-goats-eat/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/supplements-for-goats/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
There is not a huge difference in does and wethers, except does will go into heat and act a little differently sometimes. You can house them together with no problems. Bucks on the other hand have an entirely different temperament and need a space all to themselves.
I hope this helps! Best of luck and Happy Goating! Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
We are about to purchase our first goats to start a milking herd. I am speaking to someone who charges $400-$700 per doeling, but they are registered with superior genetics. I want to make sure to start our herd off right, but am also afraid to overpay for something we don’t need? Any suggestions would be very helpful.
Hi J-
Choosing to buy a registered goat is a personal decision. I have not noticed a difference in milk quality or quantity from a registered goat versus a nonregistered goat. If you are going to bred and sell or show your goats then it will make a difference. The most important things to look for first when buying goats are if the goats are healthy and the place they are coming from is clean, well managed, and all the goats and other animals look healthy and happy. This video that DaNelle made explains the things to look for when getting a dairy goat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpjR4R2rF3I
I hope this helps and you find the perfect goats to fit into your family! Best of luck and Happy Goating! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Do goats and dogs get along? We have a lab mix, a golden retriever, and a long’haired chihuahua. Would you still want 2 goats together or would one just become a part of our pack?
Hi Janette-
Yes, dogs and goats typically get along fine together. Just be cautious when introducing the dogs into your goat herd and watch for any aggression. You’ll know pretty quickly if your dogs will want to harm your goats.
It’s always best to get 2+ goats because goats are herd animals and they don’t like being alone. They get very vocal when they are lonely.
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I am purchasing a couple wethers soon, and would like to get a doe next year when I’ve got more experience under my belt. Your articles have been so helpful (and entertaining)! I was going to go to one of the top breeders in my state to purchase, but she was wanting to sell me bottle babies (not due to any injury or death to the doe). Is that normal? I’ve instead opted to check out a smaller operation with some weaned kids. I am so excited?
Hi Allison-
It’s great you are jumping into the goat journey! And I love that your are being cautious of the sellers, this means you are really prepping for your news goats and choosing wisely. There is nothing wrong with selling or purchasing bottle babies. I don’t know your goat breeders personally, but I imagine the top-breeder pulls their kids off for either increased milk production or to move kids out quicker. Either way I’m sure it is a business choice, as I imagine this is their living and how their operation works.
The smaller operation’s method of business is to wait and wean before selling. This is how I usually would raise kids too. However, as long as the kids are being fed and cared for properly there is nothing wrong with either operation. Although your decision of whom to buy from can be based on a few things.
For one thing you may not want to take on bottle feeding babies. This is time consuming, plus you need to make sure you keep feeding the babies the same thing they are used to or you could cause digestive upset. Depending on what they are drinking now (actual goat milk or a replacement), this may be difficult for you to find and may be expensive.
Another thing to think of is, whether small or big operation, how are they ran? Are the goats well cared for? Is the place clean? Can you go back to the seller as a resource for additional questions or if something is wrong with the goats you purchase. All these things come into play when buying livestock. Know you seller and know if you are comfortable with them. Which ever operation you choose, just make sure what you are getting is what you want and you are 100% comfortable with the seller.
Keep up the great work on preparing and caring for you herd! I hope this info helps. Thanks and Happy Goating! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I read this post and said to myself, “I just want some milk goats, I won’t be all crazy on Craigslist looking for goats!” Then there I was, on Craigslist looking at goats and then I did it…just like you said, I bought all the goats! Well, all the goats my husband could handle. Two little Nubian doelings and a 3 year old LaMancha. Holy smokes, I don’t know what I just did, or if was a good idea but I’m now the goat lady of the neighborhood! Yay!? Thanks for the great information, and fun posts.
Hi Kristin-
Well congratulations on your “going crazy on Craigslist” and your newly purchased goats! I hope it all goes well! Check out all the other articles online if you need information or ask us a question or two if you need any help. https://www.weedemandreap.com/category/animals/goats/
Thanks for reading and posting! Happy Goating! -Bobbi
L O LLLLL. YOU NEED TO EXPERIENCE THINGS IN LIFE, HOW MANY OF YOUR FRIENDS HAVE DONE THIS? EXACTLY, ENJOY.
I have been looking every where for a Pygmy goat and can not find one anywhere and so I don’t know what to do
Hi Alanna-
Nice you are looking at getting a Pygmy goat. If you cannot find one advertised in your local paper, the best advice I can give you (since I don’t know your exact location, and please don’t post that on the web, let’s stay safe everyone!) is to talk to your local county extension or 4-H agent. Nearly every state, through their State (Ag based) University has an office in each county and they can put you in contact with those that raise goats. Another option you can try is to go to farmer’s markets, as many vendors there are goat producers themselves or know others who are. Animal swap meets are another option, as is talking with your vet, especially if she or he is a large animal vet. You may even try your local county fair, as often 4-Hers are selling some of their stock. I know I sold a few of mine after the shows. Best of luck on finding a great goat! Thanks -Bobbi
Someone from Nextdoor.com is looking for a home for two that they have. Giving them away. Full grown I think. I’ll get details and get back to you. Send me your email. Mine is [email protected]. I live in Norco. Not sure where the goats are located but its a ‘neighborhood’ website so can’t be far. JoAnn.
Look on your local LSN.
THEY HAVE GOATS ON THE A LOT.
I was told that if you dont breed your female goat that she will take on male like characteristics, what are your thoughts?
Oh and males, if they are fixed, do they still urinate on themselves?
I want to get goats, the reproducing parts is what keeps me from getting a couple.
Hi Noni-
It’s great you are thinking about, and planning ahead for goats! As for nonbred or maiden does taking on male characteristics, I have never seen this myself. I have only personally had one doe that we never bred, and besides lack of udder growth, I never saw any difference in her. She acted the same as the other does and she was always quite lovable.
If you castrate a male goat to make him a wether, than no, they do not urinate on themselves and they do not smell. Bucks can get quite disgusting, but wethers are quite clean, lovable, and well mannered, well as well mannered as goats get. 😉 Just make sure you castrate the males when they are young, best if under 3 months, and the younger you castrate the better (within 1-3 weeks of birth is best).
I hope this information helps. Thanks for reading and posting! Happy Goating! -Bobbi
Hello!
Do I need to worry about worming? or any overeating shots?
I have sheep now and the worming is constant. I use Diatomaceous Earth Food grade. I would like to trade my sheep and get goats. Any advice (more guides links) would be appreciated!
Hi Ann-
You definitely need to worm your goats and choosing to vaccinate is up to you. Here are two great articles DaNelle wrote about this that I think will really help you. https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/goat-vaccinations/
Best of luck and thanks for reading and posting! Happy Goating! -Bobbi
Hi!
My family and I have always wanted goats, but we dont live on a farm. We have a fully fenced in back yard but we dont know if that is suitable for two goats or not? Do they need any sort of enclosure? Something for Shade? it gets very hot here in Tennessee in the summer. any information would be great!
Hi David. Here is an article that I wrote about how much space goats need. I hope it helps! https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-much-space-need-raise-goats/
DaNelle
I myself show boer goats(mainly spot back does and traditional withers) goats are naturally attracted to the heat, they are in fact desert animals meaning the have no problem with sun bathing and getting nice and warm( i live in north GA so its pretty warm here) it sounds like you have a fenced in yard, if you live anywhere near GA or SC, NC,FL etc… then keep your goats out of the grass for the most part, they could get worms very easily. try starting with a 12×15 enclosure with at least 4 inches of pea gravel(#89 stone) thats what i use. and an enclosure( 6x6x6 will work perfect.) i feed my show goats *SHOW RITE* feed which is the best feed you can get for around 25$ for a 50 lb bag. if you start there you could have a great little farm.
This article is great! My bf and I are just starting out with chickens first. We ordered them, and they come at the end of April. Soon after, we’d like to get a goat, and I was unsure which breed to get but your article comparing pygmy and Nigerian was super helpful! This is also helpful with where to start – especially the diseases they can get. I never think about that. Are you getting your feed and mineral block from a pet supply store, like Tractor Supply? Also, what kind of shelter will a goat need? I’ll have the chicken coop for the chickens but nothing yet for goats. There’s no actual barn on my property (I have 3 acres). I’ve also heard goats do better in multiples, is that true? To atleast get two?
And check out my everything blog. I’ll be blogging about my chickens shortly! http://www.theprontiperspective.com
food for thought, goats need company, ie, you always buy two or more…
I am almost ready for my goats. I am still wondering about vaccines and I know there are strong emotions on both sides. I do not want to vaccinate, but I am fearful of the diseases for the goat and because of the land contamination. Can you elaborate some on why you choose not to vaccinate your goats? Does this ever pose a problem when you try and sell your kids?
Hi Carey,
I’ve noticed goat vaccinations don’t elicit strong emotions like human vaccinations do. There are only 6 vaccinations for goats, whereas there are over 50 for humans. I have noticed people don’t blink an eye when I tell them I don’t vaccinate because I also always tell them they are welcome to vaccinate once they buy the goat. I do have my goats tested every year for diseases and I keep a very clean farm/feed organically/treat holistically, so I feel that my goats have stellar health regardless. I don’t think it’s horrible to vaccinate goats, and I wouldn’t hesitate purchasing a vaccinated goat, I just don’t think it’s necessary on a small scale of backyard farming like ours:) Hope this helps!
We are getting a pair of pygmy bucklings. Our holistic vet thinks they should have a tetanus shot for banding them. Do you castrate any on your farm and what would your advice be about tetanus risk with banding? Thanks.
Hi Andrea,
We don’t do tetanus shots here, whether we’re banding or disbudding our goats. We feel it’s a low risk, but keep in mind it is a risk you’re taking. 🙂
I am planning on getting 2 does this spring, just for using for milk and as pets. I was wondering what your thoughts on registering goats are?
When I search through craigslist there is so much talk about papers and registering. It’s confusing, and I don’t feel like I really need to since I don’t plan on showing goats, but I don’t want to struggle to sell the kids either.
Thoughts?
I’m in the same boat, but eventually we went with registered goats because they were a lot easier to sell, and we always have babies every year to sell:)
I want to get a nubion well actually 2 nubion girls how much would it cost to feed them when they are kids and how much when they are grown?
It depends on how much the hay is when you’re feeding them. But if your hay costs as much as us ($12/bale) I’d say it would cost you 4 bales or $48 a month to feed two full size Nubians.
Good morning
I have a 1 yr old Nigerian Dwarf female and 2 12 week old male wethers. We give them a handful of grain twice a day. So grain is not necessary?
Hi Zois-
Nope, grain is not necessary. In fact, it can cause digestive issues and excessive weight gain, which is not good. Stick with quality pasture and forage and they will be healthy and happy. Here are some links to some great articles DaNelle wrote on what goats need to eat:
https://www.weedemandreap.com/what-do-goats-eat/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/supplements-for-goats/
I hope this helps. Happy Goating! -Bobbi
I am looking to get a goat as a pet. Are they able to live indoor given that they have time to excerize outside? Any other tips?
Hi Shelby,
A goat has a natural instinct to forage for food all day, so indoors it would be sad and try to nibble on everything. Goats are also herd animals and they need another goat for company.
Hello!
I’ve been really interested in getting goats for a really long time, but I know nothing. Doing research is helping, but there is still some unanswered questions. I’m looking at getting a nigerian pygmy cross, but i’m having trouble finding another doeling in my area. Will she be okay without another goat for a few months? I’m also concerned on how much the initial cost is. How much will it cost me to make a basic shelter and space for up to two dwarf/pygmy goats? If possible I’d love to have an average annual cost for them. Thank you so much in advance. I’m walking in blind and want to make sure I do things right.
Hi Gillian,
I would say that she can go a few months without a pal, but she’ll be really loud:) Your shelter & fencing can be as expensive as you want. Some people will DIY it with pallets, and some will pay a fence company. For a nigerian goat, I would say they cost about $10/month in feed on average.
Hey
I’ve been wanting goats for a long time, pretty much my whole life. I am getting Nigerian dwarf goats in February. I was wondering if a doe had triplets will they all be the same gender (or twins)? How easily do they escape from there pens? What is the best way to train them for 4-H? Thank you!
Hi Sara,
How fun! When a doe has multiples, they can be different genders. Most goats won’t jump over a 3-4 foot high fence unless it’s a particularly athletic male goat:)
I will also like to add to the testing of the goats. Johnes disease is in the US and goats/ cattle/ sheep etc. Can ve sick with this for years without showing signs of suckness. It is a dieseas cause by a bacteria that HUMANS as well can become infected with as well and leads to Chrones disease. Please don’t beleive what I’m typing. Research it folks. There are other countries running studies on this and a few in the US. Johnes disease can be spread easily through feces etc. Live within the ground for several years. It would be devastating to raise a herd of goats and have ONE infected animal pass it on to everyone and wait for 7 years for your land to occupy disease free goats again. CL, CAE, Brucelossis ( spelling) tuberculosis, and Johnes. Negative herds. These diseases CAN be passed to humans.
Here’s an informative site to start with.
https://www.notmilk.com/drgreger.html
Johnes and Chrones are not the same. They present similarly but are not transpecies. You cannot vaccinate against Johnes your best bet is to buy from a herd that tests negative.
1. WOW. You’re incredible! I’ve been wanting a goat for a long while and I feel like you are reading my mind. Thank you for all the helpful blog posts!
2. Here are my concerns: I live in an urbanized area (so yes we have neighbors), but I have a big, fenced-in backyard! We also have a pug.
3. If I only get 1 goat will he be sad or lonely? Is there a docile and friendly breed that would get along well with the pup? Could the goat be a concern for the dog (i.e.: fleas, diseases, etc.). I know you said that you don’t get yours vaccinated, but do you think I should do that because of my dog?
P.S. I am wanting to start my goat career with him bein a pet only! So, do you have any breed recommendations for my situation?
THANK YOU! -Mary B.
Hi Mary! How exciting! You really do need to get two goat, they need a goat friend to be happies. Goats & dogs do pretty well together, but expect that the goat will try to headbutt it for a few months until it gets used to it. There are no diseases that transfer between goats & dogs, so you’re fine!
Hi DaNelle,
The fence in my yard is a 3 rail fence with wire, and it is 4′ 2 inches tall. Would this be enough to prevent goats from climbing out? Also, do you have to feed goats hay? There is a lot of grass and other plants in my yard. How much noise do goats make? Thanks!
Hi Caroline, these posts of mine will help you out!
https://www.weedemandreap.com/goat-fencing-breaking-out/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/what-do-goats-eat/
hi
i really want 2 goats. hear is the problem, i need to convince that they are not to much work for him(i would do most of the work) but i am at my moms house most of the time. i would be at my dads house more than enough to care for the goats. all i would need my dad to do is feed and water once a day. any tips on how i could convince him that its not to much work for him. also do you think getting 1 dwarf breed and 1 nubian would get along ok and be buddies
Hi Brooke,
What might help convince him is if you feed only once per day with a large amount of hay (we put an entire bale out for them in a hay feeder) and if you use an automatic waterer like this one.
like youre inf i live in south east new mexico on 1 ac i would like to have 2 small goats what would flaver of goats would be good for me and my 2 kittens
I’m not sure I understand your question. If you’re looking for breeds of goats that are best, I have another article here: https://www.weedemandreap.com/choosing-goat-breed/
Thank you! Loving all the great information! I just visited a farm with the Kinder goats and found them to be perfect for our situation. We will be getting 2 females when they are weaned and they will have my horse as a “buddy” too. Do you recommend the goats are completely separate from the horse? The fencing between pens is a 2 rail fence which the goats will be able to get through – the outer fencing is a sturdy non-climb so no worries there. Thank you again, I’ve been an email subscriber for quite some time and Love your site.
They should be fine with a horse once they’re a bit older (I would say 3-4 months) and can jump out of the way if they are kicked at.
Hi DaNelle,
I live on a 0.75 acre land currently and I am trying to decide between 2 Nubian or 2 Nigerian Dwarf doelings to buy. Do you have advice on which to choose? I also am living with grandparents temporarily and will be moving during the winter. How would the goats do with a property change? Thank you for all of your advice!!!
Hi Kiley! How exciting! It depends on what you’re doing with the goats and how much milk you want:) They both would do well with property changes.
Ok, so I have son with autism and I know the effects of vaccinations for my children. I am getting a few KIDS {nigerian dwarfs} that is and I am concerned about the vaccinations because just as I feel the effects they have on my children are harmful, that could be the same for my goats. And if I am using the milk because it is the healthiest for my autistic child then WHY would I put the toxins of the vaccines into his body again? Please help, if you have any recommendations?
Hi Lori,
We don’t vaccinate our goats, but I know a lot of people do. I need to write an article on it (I plan on writing one very soon!)
Vaccines are not toxic. Doctors know what they’re talking about. Please don’t encourage the spread of completely preventable and devastating diseases that modern science has already eradicated once.
Not true!
They are harmful!
I don’t mean to be rude, but trust me the vaccinations did not give your child autism. Vaccinating a goat should be a decision based on there exposure to a specific disease. It can be used to keep you goats healthy from very serious diseases, just like a vaccination can be for humans. Like in humans knowing what is being given is important.
The doctor who started the vaccine-autism correlation has been disbarred and admitted to lying himself. I can assure you your child does not have autism because of a vaccine. But I can assure you your doesn’t have polio because of a vaccine!
It is rude… Vaccinations are toxic and there are comfimed documentation a of vaccine injury so you can believe what you want.
Hi DaNelle,
I have been reading your blogs for some time now. It’s great that you have such a great sense of humor. It makes everything fun to read.
My question is how do you transport your animals for breeding or vet care? Do you have an animal trailer?
Thanks,
Jane
Hi Jane,
We transport them in the back of our SUV or we attach a trailer and put a cage in there:)
Hello! We are moving to the country in SW Indiana. We live 30 miles from our new homemail and I’m excited to out in the country. We will have 1.50 acres and it’s got apple, peach and Walnut trees. It’s got an incline and enough acreage I think for one goat. Do u prefer female to male, is there a difference in their temperament? I’d like a goat for a pet. I plan on getting a large dog too, are dogs friendly with goats? TY for all your information!
Hi Kari,
For starters, you’ll need to get two goats because they are herd animals and will be sad (and very loud) without a friend. I definitely think you should get either a 2 female goats or a 2 castrated males (called a wether) or one of each.
I hike alot and spend many days, sometimes a week or two at a time on trails. How are goats (dwarf or pygmy) as travel companions?
Hi Matthew,
I wouldn’t use a Nigerian or a Pygmy as a pack goat, as they are sometimes naughty and are more likely to escape/pull on the leash/run away. I’d go for a La Mancha, Nubian, or Alpine as a pack goat.
Your articles have been a great source information in my research for getting pet goats. I live in the city, and we are able to have goats here…. and I have a large 1/2 back yard with a shed and insane amounts of ivy, brush and overgrowth. We will not be milking or breeding, so I am planning on two wethers, I am currently leaning towards oberhasli as I have been told they are the quietest (keep the neighbors happy) and make good pets. And I have also just found out about to new boys recently born that will be sold as wethers that are mini obers! (sounds about perfect I think) I am waiting to hear back about when they will be ready and the asking price for them. However, I have also been looking into Nigerian Dwarfs, mini Nubians and Pygmys, mostly because of the smaller size I feel will fit better into an urban atmosphere…. but I have heard both of those can be naughty escape artists and more vocal than the obers. Do you have any advice or comments about these choices for an urban, back yard, pet scenario?
Thank so much!
That does sound like a perfect situation! In my experience, all goats are usually loud in the first week at a new home, and then after that they are VERY quiet unless they are out of water/food or you’re late to milk them:)
If you’re concerned about noise, stay as far away from nubians as you can get. Nachos are pretty quiet, but individuals vary.
DaNelle,
My husband and I are about to buy a small 1 acre piece of land in western Virginia (we’ve had enough of spending 4 hours of our day in rush hour). Anyway, he wants to get goats, which I’m fine with, but my thinking on getting any animal is that the animal must serve a purpose. Otherwise, it becomes a useless pet and we already have one of those ( a family dog). With 1 acre, how many goats can we get? I know that “if you get one goat, you must get two.” I was thinking Nigerian Dwarf or Agora. Both breeds would serve a purpose for us. I like things to be balanced, so I had originally thought of getting a male and a female, but then I read your blog on breeding them, and how they have to be separated… Will two goats be happy on 1 acre? The property itself is on the side of a mountain halfway up the slope, and partially overgrown. I’d also like to add in, before you answer, that we will be getting chickens too. Between the chickens having their own space, the dog hers, and a garden, will there be enough room for two goats?
Hi Allison!
1 acre is MORE than enough for two goats:) The goats will adore the slopes, too! Check out my latest video tour to see how much space ours have: https://www.weedemandreap.com/video-spring-2016-backyard-farm-tour/
Hi! I absolutely love your blog! Lots of wonderful tips and information! My husband and I are hobby farmers and our homestead is on 2 1/2 acres. Is this enough space for a few Pygmy’s?
That should be plenty!
ok! so we just purchased goats and i plan to copy everything you do!!! wondering: what exact type/brand of grain do you use, and what kind of alfalfa hay should i purchase? is it labeled for horses? can i find organic? is that something i should be able to find at a local feed store? thank you!!!!!
Hi Sarah,
Awesome! Here’s what I feed my goats: https://www.weedemandreap.com/what-do-goats-eat/
Is there a goat that is good for Milk and Meat?
Hi Sandra,
You’re going to find that milk breeds typically have less muscle on them because their energy goes into milk production. But, if I were to guess, I’d say Nigerians might be able to be used for both, or possibly a Nigerian/Pygmy cross.
We are looking at getting Nigerian Dwarf goats. Not looking at getting cross breeds. Just was a question. What is the best kind of fencing as we have 8 acres. We would like to start of two does.
Hi Sandra! I have an article on this very thing! https://www.weedemandreap.com/goat-fencing-breaking-out/
I have a question about the CL/CAE testing: I am going to look at some goats in a herd that was tested a couple of years ago; the breeder said that she does not allow any goats on the property that do not have certification of testing but due to budget reasons she has not retested her herd. Is this safe?
As long as you believe her that she hasn’t allowed other goats on the property, then yes, it’s completely safe:)
Hi DaNelle,
My hubby wore me down. We’re planning to get goats next spring. 🙂 We’re trying to decide between getting two friendly pregnant does from different lines or two doelings. My business side says that two pregnant does will bring kids and milk sooner. But my gut says those does will be a lot warmer toward my family if we bottle fed them and raised them. What has your experience been? Did it make a significant difference in your goats’ friendliness if you had raised them or not? Also, I have seen different sellers recommend the doelings can go home at different ages. What do you think is the right age to bring home a bottle fed kid?
Hi Georgia!
It actually doesn’t matter if you’ve raised them or if someone else has, a goat is friendly if they’ve been trained to be friendly to all humans. They don’t bond with one human more than the other too much.
I think you can bring a bottle-fed baby home any time, as soon as a few days after birth. If it’s being bottle-fed, then it’s not with the mother anyway:) If you’re bringing one home that’s been nursing from mom and you want to bottle-feed, just know that it will take a lot of time to get that baby to like the bottle. You’ll have to force feed a bit:)
I have become really on treated in becoming a goat owner the only problem I have is were to purchase one I live in mesa az could you tell me were I might find a goat breeder
Hi Sammy! I would suggest Blunderosa or Fairywood for Nigerians. You can search in craigslist and their listings will come up!
Little confused as to why you would refer to fiber producing goats as “fancy pants” . My experience is with Pygoras who are quite sturdy and can be used as cross purpose goats. The rest of your article is interesting.
Hi Elizabeth,
I’m just making a joke about how they are more specialty goats, not as common on a dairy farm:) But they are awesome animals for sure!
I have this 5 acres which I’m planning to raise 2 does & 1 male meat goats to start. My septic discharge thru sprinkler system on some part of the 5 acres. Is it alright raising goats on this 5 acres lot? Will it hard the health of this goats?
Hi Jes,
I would avoid it as human feces isn’t a good fertilizer unless it’s been broken down correctly:)
Hey there! So excited to say we are getting 3 baby goats next month. 2 Nubian crosses and a Nigerian Dwarf. We are going to look at a couple Nubian doe’s in milk tomorrow morning. What would be your advice before purchasing a doe in milk? We are new to goats and we want them for milk. We know all the necessary questions and qualities we are looking for but should we as new goat owners get does in milk?
Hi Leah,
I would see HOW she is milked, specifically, how calm she is on the stand and how easy it is to squeeze the milk from the teat:)
My family is interested in buying a few bred does in the spring, and we are trying to research this new adventure so we’re ready when the time comes. We are setting out with two purposes: a fun and educational experience for our little ones and getting enough milk to try our hand at homemade goats milk soap. Is it okay to milk the mamas just enough fora few batches of soap? Also, which breed would be mild mannered enough for our children to interact with? Thanks for the help!
Hi Jennifer,
If you want just a little milk, you can keep the babies around to help manage the excess. You also have the option of not milking and letting her dry up, though you’ll need to do it over time as her body will need to slowly produce less milk:)
Most breeds are the same temperament, it’s how they were raised that makes them more or less friendly. If they get a lot of human interaction as a baby, they’ll be much more so!
Can you recommend any books for first trimmers my granddaughter wants to raise pygmy goats are they the smallest we can buy
Hi Elvis, I rather like this book here:) https://amzn.to/20Q5c87
Hi! I recently got two pygmy goat wethers aged 3-4 months old. My dilemma is that neither are disbudded! I’m wondering if they are too old now to get disbudded? Thanks in advance! By the way your article was very informative!
Hi Evg,
They aren’t too old, but I would recommend it be done by a vet just in case:)
My son is planning on showing a goat this year in 4H. Which goat is best and easiest? We live in Maryland. And what do we look for in a good show goat? Thanks for your help
Hi Constance! I would go with boer or a Nubian goat. They are much calmer and easier to show than those naughty Nigerians or Pygmies.
Which is the smallest variety of goat? What is the difference between a pigmy and a dwarf.?
I love this site. I am hoping to move to Oregon and have enough land for a couple small goats.
Thx
Hi Liz,
A Pygmy is smaller than a Nigerian Dwarf. A pygmy is too small to really milk, so they are mostly for pets. Nigerians can be raised for milk and can produce 1-2 quarts a day.
The dwarf goat taste better. Just saying. If you ever wanna try I suggest gut it and place it in a bag in the ground with all the seasonings and let it sit 3 days then take it out and cook it immediately. It will stink but the taste and texture OMG.
My husband and I are looking into breeding boer goats primarily. He’d like it to eventually provide some decent income, although we’re realistic about the time it could take to build it up, so at least one of us, probably me, would still be working full time. I am wondering what a good number of goats would be to start off with that would provide a good genetic base, ie. how many does, and how many bucks? We are contemplating using artificial insemination or borrowing a goat to stud the first few times. What are your thoughts?
I would start off with 2-3 does and 1 buck, and then you can go from there. Your plans will change often as you see what babies you get:) At that point you may decide to get another buck or a different doe line:)
There are a lot of avocado trees on the property where I’d like to keep a couple of goats, not only for cuteness, but also for weed abatement. Are avocados and/or the leaves harmful to goats?
Hi Tracy,
They aren’t harmful, but I would expect the goats to want to eat up those trees, so I’d block them off. A great way is to put a pallet fence around it:)
thanks for putting up so much informtions,like u mentioned the kind of goats ,then de horned but how ,then fencing low,Actually i just retired and wantto do some thing buying and selling goats the meat one ,which is the best meaty goat.Actually what to c when buying a goat/sheep farm ,the real points ,please help me as i live in orlando and i heard there r not many goat farms as they get some foot disease is that true..Your help i need on my e mail thanks and God bless u .regards.
Hi Abdus, I’m not sure about what your question is, but goats can develop hoof rot if you don’t regularly trim their hooves:)
We’re FINALLY retiring from the military after 24 years and I FINALLY get to have my goats!
Here’s the thing: We’re headed to S.E. Alaska and it’s wet; very wet.
Are there any breeds who do better in these climes? Any special considerations you can think of?
I’d be grateful for the insight.
Thanks for your blog. We laugh so hard and feel such encouragement.
YAY! Yes, I would go with goats with thick fur. Nigerians tend to have thick fur, and also Alpines!
Can I buy goats and have them as pets? I will build a shed and outer enclosure.. but do they need to be milked?
And how cold is too cold?
They only have milk if they have had babies:) If you keep the babies, they’ll drink the milk. If you sell the babies, you’ll be responsible to milk her:)
Thank you for writing this article. We are researching the pygmy’s here in South Florida, as well as the Nigerian Dwarf’s….question is, can we keep both Nigerian Dwarf’s and Pygmy’s together in the same pen? Its roughly 30′ x 30′, and has shelter. Thanks in advance.
You totally can keep them together!
On the same note we are in the UK, we have 2xmale Pygmy (castrated goats) and want to now put them with 2xToggenburg nannies……is that going to work?
That will be fine!
Don’t forget there are tattoo requirements before picking up a goat.
That’s true, but only if you’re planning on registering them with one of the goat associations.
I can’t seem to find anywhere – how much land should we have for a goat? We are wanting a doeling to eventually breed and milk but we are on only about 1/3 of an acre (lots of brush for them to browse)…… is that enough space?
Wonderful reading your blog postings! Will be picking up my first goats tomorrow at 10 am at Surfing Goat Dairy in Kula, Maui. I will be getting two neutered males (wethers?) at @ 10 weeks old. Since I don’t want milk or to breed I passed on the doelettes because they make noise when in heat. Thanks for all the tips! I’ve got acres of weeds. Why can’t they be anywhere near an avocado tree?
I have two wethers, and I have to say, they are far sweeter than my two does. They both think they are lap goats!
Because you might want to keep the tree ! !
I’m really enjoying your site! My 4th child is about to graduate from college and move out on her own and I’m going to start getting ready for my new kids! I’ve just got to make some cheese! Thanks to you, I’ve decided on Nigerian dwarf goats! Having some fencing delivered today and searching for my mini barn plans now. They’ll have 4 laying hens as neighbors! I went through a reeeeeeallly rough time not feeling well for about 4 years, pretty sure I wasn’t gonna make it, no help from medical professionals… all 7 of them… everybody shrugged their shoulders. Well, with a lot of reading, digging around on the internet, juicing and herbing etc, etc… Iiiii’m baaaaaack! And I say I definitely am headed in the right direction when I say that I NEED and am ready for GOATS! Just what the right kind of doctor would order for me next! Craigslist??? OH THANK YOU! Headed there now! Just spoke to the hubby and he said “Let’s do it”. Goats milk saved him as an infant, so, no convincing needed. I am blessed. Thank you , thank you , thank you DaNelle! Sincerely, Janet in Arizona
Thanks Janet!
I love all the info. on goats , but I didn’t see any info. in this article about what they need in the way of shelter. Any suggestions?
Hi.
I belong to a sailing club in the south of England, UK, and our base is a small lake. Within the lake are 3 islands, each around 120 metres by 70 metres and each having several trees. Every year we have a working party to cut down the brush and bramble that rapidly spreads annually to allow us to see across the island. The brush grows to at least 4 foot in places.
Is it cruel are a good idea to purchase a couple of goats and make the islands their home?
I know nothing about keeping animals or husbandry beyond looking after cats. So apologies if I have offended anyone by the idea but would welcome your comments and any relevant advice, particularly milking needs!
Thanks
John
Goats exist in the wild, so as long as there is fresh water, I don’t see why not! I would try to look up the species of plants there to make sure their nutritional needs could be met:)
Kiko goats do VERY well in the wild that’s where they’re from, also you don’t need to worry about milking them the kids will take care of that.
What do you do when you have to get a new home for your goat when you become to old to keep them??i don’t want them used for meat.
Hi Susie,
You could definitely sell them to somebody else:)
Glad to read that you don’t vaccinate. Have 2 new baby girls 5 months, would like to breed/milk later. They are so sweet! First timer.
I had Alpines for a great many years, with most of the does being 2 gallon/day milkers. They were CAE negative. I found when using electric fencing, spacing wires a hammer handle’s length between the wires will keep the best escape artists from getting out. It usually results in using about 4 strands of wire. A hammer handle’s length is about 12″ long. This was the only thing I found that actually worked in keeping all my goats, kids included, from getting out. I also would tie little strips of white material to the fencing so the goats could see it, knowing where their boarder is. Now, this may seem like a cruel thing to do, but with the goats’ curious nature, they would have to check out those little white flags. And, being goats, they would sniff and try to nibble the white rags. But, this is also where the lesson comes in, in teaching them where their boarders are. Its the element of surprise in getting zapped from the fence that actually teaches them their boundaries. Once one or two were zapped, they all left the fencing alone, and didn’t even try to escape. Goats are very smart! You just have to be smarter than your goats!
If you have goats, and wish to show them, make sure to check with the shows to see if your goats will need to be vaccinated. All shows that I’ve been to required vaccinating for Brucellosis (commonly called “Bang’s Disease). Other vaccinations may be required depending on where you live.
Hope this helps!
Best LIFE GAME ever: outsmart a goat. Yep!
Please PLEASE mention to people that they need to ask for negative CAE tests. There is nothing more heartbreaking to a new (and therefore ignorant) goat owner than ending up with sick, arthritic goats that have to be put down because she bought from the goat equivalent of a puppy mill. This disease is serious and it is everywhere. Demand to see proof of negative test results – or have a vet come and do it yourself – BEFORE you bring home a sick animal.
Yes! Thanks for the reminder!
I’m thinking about getting a couple goats to keep my miniature pony company. Problem is I have three board fencing. I already have hotwire set up and was told I could extend It lower and it would work fine for the goats. Any thoughts on this?
Yes, the wire should work fine as long as it’s low enough that they can’t squeeze underneath:)
I just cant see how you can separate a “meat” breed from a “pet” breed. That sound terrible to me. I think I would adopt either and refrain from eating either as well.
I think the term “meat” breed applies to the breeds who are bred to have more muscle on them which creates more meat when they are full grown. The pet breeds are very little and have little meat on them as well. I wouldn’t mind eating a pet breed, but the meat yield would be low.
I understand that some people don’t choose to eat meat, and that is wonderful for you. For us, we do choose to eat meat, but we also only eat meat that we have raised ourselves. We feel that if we are going to choose to eat meat, we need to be willing to do it ourselves.
This is my sentiment exactly, and why we are gearing up and getting our land ready for raising animals. We (Americans, and most Westerners) have become so removed from how our food is grown and produced, or in the case of animals, raised. At least if you raise them yourself you know they are having a wonderful life up until their death instead of living in a CAFO or similar situation. Thanks for the info!
I have a question for the old timers…..I will be adopting twin goats soon, a wether and a doe. Can I expect problems by having twins?
Not at all.
This has been true! I now have two sets of twins. I have dog litter mates and its a nightmare. I was so worried the goats would be the same. There is NOTHING sweeter than a bottle fed wether, I will say!
What’s you opinion on getting 2 pygmy goats as inside pets? Good or terrible idea?
Haha! Well, I’m not sure you could house train them:) Also, goats have an instinct to be foraging for food all day, they’d probably chew away at the carpet or try to look for grass.
so will a mixed breed still be ok for milking???
Absolutely. I’ve owned mixed breeds before and they’ve always been great. Just make sure that the breeds are milking breeds to be sure to get the best tasting milk!
My husband and I just got our first goats! Mixed breeds of Alpine, Nubian and Saanen’s from a local goat milk dairy. We started with 5, then got 5 more, now we have 20. Some are being raised as meat goats, but still….
Glad to know other people suffer from the “cute goat” syndrome! I love my goats, but I would have preferred to stop at 10 goats. The husband came home with 10 more the other day when he brought our older babies to get disbudded. What a surprise!
Love love love this site. Thanks for such great info!!!
Thank you!
what kind of diary goats do you say are the best. I like the aplines but I want to know what you think.thank you 🙂
I used to be only loyal to Nigerians, but now I’m liking Nubians and La Manchas! It’s a toss up:)
thank you them 3 were my favorite.now I just got to chews.
Critical piece of information….if you get a male goat, have him “fixed” before he matures because he will be VERY stinky and will pee on his beard. Learned this the hard way.
We never had a goat use their horns on us, but we did have an instance where the herd queen pinned one of our kinder goats against a barn wall and was beating her. Thankfully we heard the screaming and I was able to save the goat. Unfortunately, I ended up selling my horned goat, it just wasn’t safe for the kinders.
Also, wanted to mention there’s another breed of dairy goats, the kinders. The first generation is a cross between a full size nubian and a pygmy (so they’re also dual purpose goats: dairy and meat). Ours are third generation kinders so that means they’ve been bred to other full kinders. We love them! I appreciate the smaller size- they’re much easier to handle if you need to give medicine, worming, ect. They’re a great size for 4-H children as well.
Also, you can show mixed breeds in 4-H, they qualify under the “other” category.
I would disagree with the dis-budding as a ‘must’. I have both dis-budded and horned goats and I find neither one is overly dangerous. My dis-budded goats head butt each other just as much as my horned goats. My goats have NEVER used their horns on me. I think perhaps a better statement may have been ‘dis-budding is a personal choice, much like breed is.’ I personally don’t do it (the dis-budded ones were bought that way). I also would choose a free choice loose salt rather than a block, as goats have a smooth tongue which is not as good at licking a block like a cow’s tongue. Goats tend to end up biting the block which is bad for their teeth. Other than that, pretty good basic start!
Removing the horns of a goat is an owners choice. That being said, goats get alot of their cooling from the blood that flows through the horn. I’ve always left mine as is. Watch a goat with horns and how they use them. Scratching, breaking up a bail of hay, etc…..maybe even as a last minute defense…always choices.
People just can’t understand why I want GOATS! Yes, learning to take care of livestock is new to us -which is why we are doing lots of research and starting with chickens this year) but I just love the antics of these little guys-or any animals, for that matter. Thanks for your article-it was very helpful!
OMG, I would love to have a goat! Sadly I don’t think it would fly as I live in an apartment in Southern CA 🙁 De-horning sounds like de-clawing 🙁
You actually can show mixed breed goats. My kids are in 4H and have showed them.
I would like to say that a block of mineral is not sufficient for goats. They can’t get enough mineral from a block. They will also wear their teeth down chewing on as their tongues are too smooth to lick enough off. They need a good quality loose mineral that is high in copper. Goats also need copper supplements and Selenium if you are in a low selenium area. Good fences are essential or you will end up hating your goats.
I agree with not vaccinating. No need to introduce additional toxins!
Free choice baking soda as well I’ve read.
I was going to add that you can show grade goats, but Lacie beat me too it! I would like to see a reminder that if people are expecting to turn their goats loose in their yard to munch on weeds and plants, that they need to know what types of plants they have in their yard. Most people have Oleanders, Azaleas, and Rhododendrons, which are highly toxic to goats, along with other types of normal and wild brush/trees/plants growing in and around their yard/fields.
I’ve raised dairy goats all my life and found that this little snip-bit is pretty close to what I tell my friends who want to buy goats for the first time… except one thing. There are several options for showing “mixed breed” goats or “grade” goats as farms registered with the American Diary Goat Association call them. Please check out the ADGA registration for “brown papered” animals (prue breed animals have blue show papers) and its often an afforable option for a young FFA, 4-H member or a new hobby hearder.
The only peice of advise I think you missed when it comes to new goat owners is to stress the importance of good fences. Everyone I’ve ever met who started with goats that then when to another livestock found themselves stressed and annoyed with how smart goats were making them fantastic escape artists. To any new goat owner I say to make sure you have good fences and something to entertain your animals, or you’ll have some very unhappy neighbors. My does love a long brush hung up on the wall to scratch against and large wire wheels (like the ones for cabel lines along the road) for them to jump up and down from.
If your fence won’t hold water it won’t hold goats!! lol
How do you protect them from predators- like your own dogs?
Pen your dogs! even small dogs will bother them! & use electric fences where you keep your goats Bring your goats in at night to a barn or safe enclosure!
Not all dogs – I have Great Pyrenees and they protect my chickens, pig, goats, etc.
You can get guardian dogs like Great Pyrenees.
Well here’s the thing…goats or dogs, pick one. Or get a guard animal and hope Fido gets the message before he gets hurt or maimed. Dogs chasing your goats will panic them to a heart attack/death without leaving a mark.
I have read that goats are very social and 1 goat on a farm may not be very happy. Mostly I have read if you want a goat you need at least 2 goats. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I want goats one day!!
At least two. One goat will cry a lot and drive you crazy. They are herd animals and like a friend.
One thing, and a couple have touched on this, your first try at goats, buy two. Goats are herd animals and require a buddy. When I was selling dairy does for profit, I’d always have a few buyers that thought I was trying to scam ’em. Politely I would give ’em a few websites to look at and in a few days most came back for two. A happy goat is one that doesn’t look for things OUTSIDE the fence. Always remember ” if a fence can’t hold water, then it won’t hold a goat ” .
Mike Burke
I second Karons question. Also will my garden need protection?
They like to eat stuff…so I would protect my garden and my trees. Goats are browsers rather than grazers, so they will eat all manner of plant material and they like a variety of plant material. There are also things that are harmful to them as well if eaten. So if you grow those things in your garden, best protect the goats from it.
I’m seriously looking at buying a goat so I can have fresh goat’s milk to make yogurt. What breed yields the greatest volume of milk per milking? Thanks
For volume Saanens, they are like the “Holsteins” of the goat world, however they are also larger goats, they also milk longer per lactation than some breeds but the milk is not quite as creamy (butterfat content) while Nubians are like “Jerseys” they don’t give quite as much or for as long per lactation but the milk is very rich (higher butterfat), they are also more vocal, Nigerian Dwarfs are smaller the milk is rich, but the quantity is less of course being smaller breed. Best to do some research prior to best get what suits your particular expectations, & budget.
My mother and I are getting our first goat this month. Thanks for all the info. I’m so excited to have fresh raw milk for my family.
You’re going to LOVE them!
I really enjoyed this post, I came over from pinterest!
Awesome!